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Moonshadow
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Returning after some time off, need direction

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Been a while since I last played, I believe it was back in 2014. I have recently started playing again, and need help with what I should be doing.

I clearly had been heading a direction, but what direction that was now escapes me.

Back then, I remember being told that I should get as close to 100% LRC as possible, to get a solid whirlwind weapon, get some good mules, and to get 225 dex. Im pretty close to 100% LRC, I have a very solid Blaze of Death, and I have 5 very capable mules, but 225 dex still escapes me. So I figured I should work on that.

When I looked at my base stats, 125 str , 125 dex, and 50 int. 125+125+50=300. I figured I never got a scroll of power, so I bought a +40 from one of the shops, and went to raising dex. Music related skills where lacking, so I used those, locking my int and str. After some time, my peacemaking was 25% but still no stat gain. Well shoot, I thought, and I decided to just get some essences. So I bought some dex essences, 31 of them which was all I could find. Upon trying to use them, I was told by system that I need to dump a skill to raise my dex. So I did that, and raised my dex by one, sacrificing str.

Hold up, with a +40 scroll of power, should I not be able to run up my dex without sacrificing str? My stats should be capped at 340 now not 300. After some researching on the Wiki stats guide, I found information alluding to a what I interpreted as a 125 individual stat cap as well. Cool, Ill just get some of those +5 individual stat raises from the ED marketplace, and raise dex to 150. So I did that, and nope, essences still don't work, still asking me to sacrifice another stat. So maybe I'm misunderstanding what exactly I needed to do, but I am out 15m and 50usd until I figure it out. I have better gear than the 225 dex guide requires, so this seems to be the only barrier to 225 dex.

So here are my questions:
  • What did I do wrong/what am I not doing, what do I need to do to 225 dex?
  • I see a lot of yumis out there these days, whats that about?
  • Is there a point where I'm not dependent on my mules for champs?
  • What build should I be heading for, stat wise?
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im reading that you did raise dex to 150 that is the hard cap for individual stats thats why the the essences arnt raising it any further. getting dex base to 150 is the toughest part now you just need to get some dex gear like batwings (sandals), jackals collar (neck), pugilists gloves, jewelry with 8-10 dex on it and start to work on your first relayer. if you dont have mistvale cloak and sash you can get a cloak from winter quest that is same stats as mistvale cloak.
i think there is still a 225 dex guide on the wiki but its kinda hidden you have to find it with searches. devlin wrote the 225 dex guide im thinking of might be in forums too.
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220 Dex: The Instant Heal Guide

With a proper set of gear and an some investments, you can heal instantly with bandages. At 220 it becomes instant. At 215 you heal every .25 seconds, which comes out to be about 190-200 HP healed per second. At 210 it is about 100 HP healed per second.

There are a few obstacles to getting 220 dex gear.

- Spending 250 ED to boost your base dex to 150/Getting at least a +25 stat scroll

- Acquiring the gear, whether by looting or buying it (which can be pricey)

- Dealing with low resists, stats and maybe HP from the dex gear. (You can either get good crafted arms/legs or GoC gear to help here)
Gear List

Jackal's Collar: +15

Bat Wings: +10

Gloves of the Pugilist: +8

Jewelry: +24 (Bracelet, Ring, Earrings). Varies, depending if you have dex/str stuff, which you want.

Weapon: +8, ( Weapon Level Deed)

Hunter's Headdress: +8, Pretty crappy hat imo, ugly too.

Ironwood Crown: +5 It's a carpentry item, but it's actually a chest piece here. +5 dex/str/int

Arms of Tactical Excellence: +5 Its a Tokuno Minor Arty.

Stitcher's Mittens: +5 Dex and 30% LRC. Decent alternative to Gloves of Pug. Crafted Leather, so they are medable too.


The Bold pieces total +65 Dex together and are the core pieces of the set. The Italic pieces are optional, depending on a few things:

What your base Dex cap is (should be 150)
If you want 215 or 220 Dex
If you care about resists/other stats

Things to Keep in Mind

- You will have some bad stats with this gear on. Resists will be low, you won't have many of the good bonuses from crafted gear (LMC, RPD, regens, +Hp/mana, etc) You will need good pants and arms to compensate for this. Gem Of Completion (GoC) gear will also help a lot here, the chest is the best piece in the game. FC/FCR are crucial to cap. If you intend on relayering anything, you might be able to work in the GoC Boots in place of the Bat Wings, which can also assist in capping FC/FCR, as well as boost resists/regens.

- GoC gear has a lot of mana and regens on it. A well planned Relayer does as well.

- While boosting the Dex cap is great, boosting the Str cap will only give you 12.5 HP. It is not worth 250 ED to boost the cap, as well as a higher +Stat scroll and dropping your Int possibly. A Relayer would be a wiser investment instead; once you have a few, then think about boosting the Str cap.

-cut & paste from uoex wiki ( https://www.uoex.net/wiki/220_Dex_Guide )
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culichi wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:43 pm
Ironwood Crown: +5 It's a carpentry item, but it's actually a chest piece here. +5 dex/str/int
This is no longer true. The ironwood crown was fixed and is now headgear.
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culichi wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:26 pm
im reading that you did raise dex to 150 that is the hard cap for individual stats thats why the the essences arnt raising it any further. getting dex base to 150 is the toughest part now you just need to get some dex gear like batwings (sandals), jackals collar (neck), pugilists gloves, jewelry with 8-10 dex on it and start to work on your first relayer. if you dont have mistvale cloak and sash you can get a cloak from winter quest that is same stats as mistvale cloak.
i think there is still a 225 dex guide on the wiki but its kinda hidden you have to find it with searches. devlin wrote the 225 dex guide im thinking of might be in forums too.
I do not have 150 dex, I have 125 dex (base) I have tried using the essences with nothing equipped, and still no gains. I individual +5 scrolls to increase the CAP to 150, my base unequipped dex is still 125, and will not go up, thus my dilemma.

I have Better gear than the guide on the wiki, which is why I should be able to get 225 dex with just a +40 scroll of power. (so I thought) I did all the things the guide told me to do, then some. but I cannot raise my dex past 125.
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culichi wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:43 pm
220 Dex: The Instant Heal Guide

With a proper set of gear and an some investments, you can heal instantly with bandages. At 220 it becomes instant. At 215 you heal every .25 seconds, which comes out to be about 190-200 HP healed per second. At 210 it is about 100 HP healed per second.

There are a few obstacles to getting 220 dex gear.

- Spending 250 ED to boost your base dex to 150/Getting at least a +25 stat scroll

- Acquiring the gear, whether by looting or buying it (which can be pricey)

- Dealing with low resists, stats and maybe HP from the dex gear. (You can either get good crafted arms/legs or GoC gear to help here)
Gear List

Jackal's Collar: +15

Bat Wings: +10

Gloves of the Pugilist: +8

Jewelry: +24 (Bracelet, Ring, Earrings). Varies, depending if you have dex/str stuff, which you want.

Weapon: +8, ( Weapon Level Deed)

Hunter's Headdress: +8, Pretty crappy hat imo, ugly too.

Ironwood Crown: +5 It's a carpentry item, but it's actually a chest piece here. +5 dex/str/int

Arms of Tactical Excellence: +5 Its a Tokuno Minor Arty.

Stitcher's Mittens: +5 Dex and 30% LRC. Decent alternative to Gloves of Pug. Crafted Leather, so they are medable too.


The Bold pieces total +65 Dex together and are the core pieces of the set. The Italic pieces are optional, depending on a few things:

What your base Dex cap is (should be 150)
If you want 215 or 220 Dex
If you care about resists/other stats

Things to Keep in Mind

- You will have some bad stats with this gear on. Resists will be low, you won't have many of the good bonuses from crafted gear (LMC, RPD, regens, +Hp/mana, etc) You will need good pants and arms to compensate for this. Gem Of Completion (GoC) gear will also help a lot here, the chest is the best piece in the game. FC/FCR are crucial to cap. If you intend on relayering anything, you might be able to work in the GoC Boots in place of the Bat Wings, which can also assist in capping FC/FCR, as well as boost resists/regens.

- GoC gear has a lot of mana and regens on it. A well planned Relayer does as well.

- While boosting the Dex cap is great, boosting the Str cap will only give you 12.5 HP. It is not worth 250 ED to boost the cap, as well as a higher +Stat scroll and dropping your Int possibly. A Relayer would be a wiser investment instead; once you have a few, then think about boosting the Str cap.

-cut & paste from uoex wiki ( https://www.uoex.net/wiki/220_Dex_Guide )
I thank you for your assistance, and yes, this is word for word the guide I mentioned following in my post. No offense, but I struggle to see how re-posting it here, after I had mentioned referencing it, helps.

(use of CAPS here is not to express anger, it is an attempt to at better clarity)


Maybe I was vague with my questions. But plain text was, I did ALL the things in that guide and bought BETTER gear than the guide specifies, landing over the +65 dex gear suggestion.

I cannot raise my base dex past 125. I CAN WITH GEAR. but even 125+65 is 190. So as mentioned scroll of power are needed. I bought and used a +40, and still could not raise my BASE DEX past 125. So I bought individual Stat raises for dex+5 to get dex cap to 150, and stiil cant raise BASE DEX PAST 125. Which ultimately is my dilemma.
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Moonshadow wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:23 am
bought a +40 from one of the shops, Ill just get some of those +5 individual stat raises from the ED marketplace, and raise dex to 150.
This is the correct method. After applying the +40, the maximum stats section of your status bar will say 340. After applying five +5 to a stat to dex scrolls, your maximum dex will be 150. I don't think there's a visual indicator of this anywhere.

So long as your INT remains locked at 50, you'll be able to apply dex essences to gain points of dex. If your INT is over 50, set it to down instead of locked and do a dex activity.

Last I checked, stat essences do not work if your natural stats are already at the stat cap across all three stats (340 in your case). You have to set one stat to down, the desired stat to up and then do an activity that results in the gain of the desired stat.
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Moonshadow wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:23 am
Been a while since I last played, I believe it was back in 2014. I have recently started playing again, and need help with what I should be doing.

I clearly had been heading a direction, but what direction that was now escapes me.

Back then, I remember being told that I should get as close to 100% LRC as possible, to get a solid whirlwind weapon, get some good mules, and to get 225 dex. Im pretty close to 100% LRC, I have a very solid Blaze of Death, and I have 5 very capable mules, but 225 dex still escapes me. So I figured I should work on that.

When I looked at my base stats, 125 str , 125 dex, and 50 int. 125+125+50=300. I figured I never got a scroll of power, so I bought a +40 from one of the shops, and went to raising dex. Music related skills where lacking, so I used those, locking my int and str. After some time, my peacemaking was 25% but still no stat gain. Well shoot, I thought, and I decided to just get some essences. So I bought some dex essences, 31 of them which was all I could find. Upon trying to use them, I was told by system that I need to dump a skill to raise my dex. So I did that, and raised my dex by one, sacrificing str.

Hold up, with a +40 scroll of power, should I not be able to run up my dex without sacrificing str? My stats should be capped at 340 now not 300. After some researching on the Wiki stats guide, I found information alluding to a what I interpreted as a 125 individual stat cap as well. Cool, Ill just get some of those +5 individual stat raises from the ED marketplace, and raise dex to 150. So I did that, and nope, essences still don't work, still asking me to sacrifice another stat. So maybe I'm misunderstanding what exactly I needed to do, but I am out 15m and 50usd until I figure it out. I have better gear than the 225 dex guide requires, so this seems to be the only barrier to 225 dex.

So here are my questions:
  • What did I do wrong/what am I not doing, what do I need to do to 225 dex?
  • I see a lot of yumis out there these days, whats that about?
  • Is there a point where I'm not dependent on my mules for champs?
  • What build should I be heading for, stat wise?
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