Best Single Target Weapon

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Hi everyone. As the topic states, I'm trying to figure out what is the optimal weapon type to use for a single target. I see a lot of people sporting Yumis or Double Axes but I''m curious if there isn't something better out there (not counting the change weapon specials).

Looking at the DPS chart on stratics (https://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-armor/arms.php), when you take into account factors like our potentially capped swing-speed and stamina you can expect that every weapon swings with the lowest delay of 1.25 seconds. It also isn't too difficult to get lumberjacking up to 120 to get the extra bonus there, so I put in some rough numbers based on roughly my current stats to the top 6 DPS options are:

Ornate Axe - 65.6
Large Battle Axe - 65.6
Battle Axe - 62
Two-handed Axe - 62
Bardiche - 60.4
War Hammer - 60.4

The double axe comes in at 58.2 but the yumi is much lower at 48.8 but I can see why these two are used frequently due to having two good special attacks, crowd control, or just having range.

So I'm just curious, if it came down to just worrying about a single target, which weapon would be best and why? Does it change as you get closer to being end-game geared?
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I agree, Ornate axe is very good :)
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The yumi is my choice for a single point target weapon because of double shot which does significant damage on its one but, the deciding factor is the fact that with 60% lighting, fireball and harm hitting twice every 1.25 seconds you are getting up to 8 dmg ticks per shot. With high SDI lighting and fireball can hit for over 100 points each on their own.

It also has the bonus of being a ranged weapon so, in the rare situations that kiting is needed I can still do significant dmg from a distance (where normally I stand toe to toe with the target to maximize harm dmg and RPD [got a 850 dmg RPD tick yesterday :) ]

Also, when you are somewhere you can't be mounted (like in wrong or some events) the yumi still has a great Armore piercing attack that does significant dmg on its own.

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If this shard has not altered the caps it should be a 300% max so you may not care about lumberjacking once you're maxed out.


Tactics 130 87,5
Anatomy 130 70
STR 125 42,5
DMG increase 100% 100%
Total 300%

The Yumi is mostly the players choice due to their speed, above average damage primary ability and range (13-17 for 3.25).

Other weapons that are also good: Gnarled staff (15-18) Gargish Gnarled Staff (15-18) hammer pick (13-17) Broadsword (13-17) Double Axe and Executioner's Axe (15-18) all 3.25speed

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I hadn't even considered how the lumberjack bonus factors into the damage calculation. If it's a part of the 300% total, then does it provide any benefit if your already at the 300% cap?

Is this also true for Strength? I thought you would always benefit from having higher strength to do more damage.
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I believe STR increases always result in a dmg increase, I have a base dmg of 102 max with my yumi when buffed all the way and 94 unbuffed. This is why SOT, titans hammer and to a lesser extent BCs are sought after relayer items because they increase dmg output due to the higher base str.
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Sindall wrote:Hi everyone. As the topic states, I'm trying to figure out what is the optimal weapon type to use for a single target. I see a lot of people sporting Yumis or Double Axes but I''m curious if there isn't something better out there (not counting the change weapon specials).

Looking at the DPS chart on stratics (https://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-armor/arms.php), when you take into account factors like our potentially capped swing-speed and stamina you can expect that every weapon swings with the lowest delay of 1.25 seconds. It also isn't too difficult to get lumberjacking up to 120 to get the extra bonus there, so I put in some rough numbers based on roughly my current stats to the top 6 DPS options are:

Ornate Axe - 65.6
Large Battle Axe - 65.6
Battle Axe - 62
Two-handed Axe - 62
Bardiche - 60.4
War Hammer - 60.4

The double axe comes in at 58.2 but the yumi is much lower at 48.8 but I can see why these two are used frequently due to having two good special attacks, crowd control, or just having range.

So I'm just curious, if it came down to just worrying about a single target, which weapon would be best and why? Does it change as you get closer to being end-game geared?
How did you arrive at those numbers? Both a Yumi and an Ornate Axe have a base damage of 18-20.
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There is no 300% or 400% damage increase cap here. Only 100% cap on DI from gear.
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Muolke wrote:
How did you arrive at those numbers? Both a Yumi and an Ornate Axe have a base damage of 18-20.
That's a good catch Moulke. The calculator on that site has the yumi base damage listed as 13-17. That actually helps narrow down the options! The numbers came from what I could put in, 120 anat/tactics/LJ, 100% DI, 200 STR, max SSI and high enough stamina to bring everything to a 1.25 swing delay.
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Eless wrote:There is no 300% or 400% damage increase cap here. Only 100% cap on DI from gear.
Also very good to know! So the lumberjack bonus isn't worthless, but it's hard to get something comparable to the yumi even with the extra damage bonus?
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would captain jack sparrow's cutlass count? it's a one handed wep with weapon damage: 19-31 speed: 44
wep abilities are bleed attack & shadow strike
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culichi wrote:would captain jack sparrow's cutlass count? it's a one handed wep with weapon damage: 19-31 speed: 44
wep abilities are bleed attack & shadow strike
yeah, that could be tested out... remove all gears and just equipt the weapon then check the base damage on your character status. find a test subject to check the damage.
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Captain Jack's cutlass probably is the highest base damage (I can't think of anything higher) but lacking a double hit special probably hurts its overall damage output. Some day if I happen to get one, I'd like to put it to the test. I'd bet its lightning strike damage is significant on critical hits!
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Isn't this whole argument moot? Spell damage outweighs the damage from the wep. That s why yumi is hands down, far and away, stop all your testing, the best (non auction deeded) weapon. I find it amusing people are even talking about other weps for single damage.

Yumi has decent base dmg, but most importantly it has double shot. Doubles all your chances of the hit spells going off. With any decent amount of SDI all you care about is how many and how often u can get fireball and lightning to go off. Yum or double axe do that, but the daxe suffers the -10% dmg with double strike, hence it's in second after the yumi is first by a few parsecs.

Every other weapon type is either for AoE, just a gimmick or for looks. Solved, you're all welcome.

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Sindall wrote:Captain Jack's cutlass probably is the highest base damage (I can't think of anything higher) but lacking a double hit special probably hurts its overall damage output. Some day if I happen to get one, I'd like to put it to the test. I'd bet its lightning strike damage is significant on critical hits!
Maybe it's just me but I think Captain Jack's Cutlass is completely useless. Any leveled Yumi with 2 hit spells will do more damage without even doing double shot. If I had to guess, a Yumi with 4 hit spells at 300% SDI probably does 300-400% more damage than Captain Jack's Cutlass could ever do.
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