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Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:04 am
by Johnny Warren
I don't think bows or crossbows should do any damage at point blank range.... Its kind of ridiculous when u think about it... how do you parry when drawing a string and firing a weapon.. I think when you are at point blank with an enemy you should not be able to fire arrows/bolts...Either that or make a sliding scale of damage where it is small at point blank, increasing to a maximum damage (around half the weapons range) and then lessening at higher range.... Just to add a little more realism to the weapons...
Thoughts, Criticisms and comments welcome.
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:09 am
by Pendexter
on OSI shards there is an ability called Velocity, it actualy add damage for each tile between the attacker and target.
Maybe staff should lower tha basic damage of all ranged weapons and apply that ability, again, to all ranged weapons. Damage should be as is now at maximum weapon range.
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:09 am
by Gershaw
If we're going realistic, then how about we make a point-blank shot from arrows be unblockable and penetrate one's armor almost every time? I mean, it's kind of not realistic for someone to be able to take a hit from a heavy crossbow from 2 feet away and not die.
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:24 am
by TheWatcher
In that case all weapons should be one shot killers. Fairly certain if someone stabbed me with a dagger I'd Probably die from it. Think the idea is more for bringing some diversity to the game. Not to add realism. Tempt people away from yumis and archery. Though I could be wrong.
If we want realism remove monsters and spells. Maybe add a laundry feature. I have worn my armor the year and a bit I've been playing. Pretty sure it would stink.
Sorry to hijack JW
back on topic.
I think anything that creates some diversity is a plus
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:18 am
by Steve
TheWatcher wrote: Maybe add a laundry feature. I have worn my armor the year and a bit I've been playing. Pretty sure it would stink.
LOVE IT! ^_^
Use Skill: Laundry...
*You feel nausious*
You fail to clean your underwear.
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:29 am
by Gershaw
TheWatcher wrote:I think anything that creates some diversity is a plus
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I just like better reasons given than 'realism' alone xD.
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:29 pm
by Pendexter
we are not talking about realism here, but something should be done about that everyone (almost) is running around with yumi.
My suggestion wouldnt nerf nor boost damage from ranged, you would just have to put some effort into it - to try keeping maximum (- 2 or 3 tiles?) range to still have max. damage (damage as is atm)
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:36 pm
by Side
+1
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:27 pm
by Cornbread
If you nerf yumi's or any bows for that matter people are just going to switch to the new most powerful weapon. No skill cap means everyone already or very quickly will have max skills in all weapons so it won't change anything except giving people something else to complain about.
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:26 pm
by Pendexter
all weapons should be aprox the same damage so the one would choose something based on abilities, look, ...
For me, I would like to use a crossbow, but with less range and halved damage ... i think ill stay with yumi.
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:20 pm
by Gwendolyn
Cornbread wrote:Code: Select all
Anything with Crushing Blow will become new standard
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:19 pm
by Side
Gwendolyn wrote:Cornbread wrote:Code: Select all
Anything with Crushing Blow will become new standard
I'd rather see a variety of the 14 possible weapons that can utilize crushing blow, then yumis on everyone.
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:47 pm
by Johnny Warren
Ok i guess 'realism' wasnt really the right word to use lol.... I just think in terms of fighting with ranged weapons, particularly large bows, they would be extremely cumbersome at point blank... i'd rather use the bow or an arrow in hand to attempt to parry blows... rather than use both hands to load and fire the weapon... And it wouldnt make Yumi's bad... would just mean more micro management (kiting foes etc) and make warriors carry a variety of weapons for faster enemies...
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:03 am
by Gwendolyn
Side wrote:Gwendolyn wrote:Cornbread wrote:Code: Select all
Anything with Crushing Blow will become new standard
I'd rather see a variety of the 14 possible weapons that can utilize crushing blow, then yumis on everyone.
I'd turn my Yumi into a War Hammer or something
xD
Re: Bows and Crossbows Range/Damage
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:06 am
by Penny
Foes to kite:
Umbris Camp
Anything that one-hits you
Reasons to carry variety of weapons:
- Enemies run away: use bow
- Lots of enemies: use melee weapon with area attack
- Enemies too strong: use bow
- Don't want to waste arrows: use melee
Micromanagement:
- Try explosion potions, could be (mega)tons of fun
- Use combinations of mage spells, ninjitsu, bushido, necro spells
It's all already there, just need to look for it.