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I had a interesting idea though. One of +V doors that empties our backpack and slaps a robe on us could be used. Instead of a robe, we could receive a gm crafted armor and 2/6 casting jewels and perhaps a sheild and a weapon or a bow (nothing runic). If you use that door to access felucca, then you are attackable everywhere on that facet by other players who used the same door.

+V being able to put what he wants on you when you cross the portal, we could ask for a temporary ethy mount, a bag of regs, a temporary magery book or necro book... etc.

Devlin wrote:.

On a shard with no skill limits and custom gear, ANY form of PvP is going to be highly unbalanced in different manners. The only proper form of PvP we could do, where nobody can complain about gear/stats and whatnot, is in the few events we have with set gear/teams, etc.

You couldn't have said it better

BTW. The only way to kill a player with insta bandages is to mortal and then deal damage. Enchanted apples are the only way that i know to counter mortal strikes and we don't have them on this server.

fingers wrote:
Also, it is my experience that when players go in the pvp dungeon and get killed, they sometime use global chat to express their frustration. I am sure most of us just play UOEX to chill and have fun chatting, taming, etc. and don't really feel like reading frustration messages.

anarchy wrote:
stop crying. seriously getting sick of the people who don't have complaining about the people that do have. [...] just need to have some strategy, [...] a lot of you noob this ganking that crying about some who can f2f. blah blah.

And it hasn't even started yet.

yeah and just think if we had factions.

fingers wrote:
BTW. The only way to kill a player with insta bandages is to mortal and then deal damage. Enchanted apples are the only way that i know to counter mortal strikes and we don't have them on this server.

There actually a few ways; straight cast heal, Close wound, Touch of Life, Scared Boon, Pots, Life leech, Vamprice embrace, HP regren. People have been dealing with mortal strike in Sgail and Umbris camp. so its all feasible.

Yes, there will be problems. But what is the real reason why people want PVP. to have fun. If people wanted a fair fight only, then there is no need for pvp. Go to the pvp dungeon and thats it. Pvp shard, is more of an ego thing, test of skill, ganking and trash talk. Like any sports, if you are good, you want to see how good you really are by challenging someone. When you get beat, its a wake up call. There will always be someone better then you and you cant win everytime. But having an option to faction, just allows some people a break from the normal.
I believe if pvp is ever allowed, you will lose some people but not many. because after the first month or two; there will only be about 10 people constantly pvping faction. So this will only affect a small group of people.
As for me, i personally dont mind the trash talk. because 2 reasons. 1. I have global chat off. 2. I can walk away from the game. its a game.

Not trying to be negative to you finger, but I like looking for solutions instead of focusing on issues.

Kenekeo wrote: There actually a few ways; straight cast heal, Close wound, Touch of Life, Scared Boon, Pots, Life leech, Vamprice embrace, HP regren. People have been dealing with mortal strike in Sgail and Umbris camp. so its all feasible.

Sorry, correction. Straigh heal wont work. But Spirit Speak forms of heal will. ie. Touch of Life and Spirit Speak as a skill. Shows my rust in pvp .

Kenekeo wrote:
Pvp shard, is more of an ego thing, test of skill, ganking and trash talk.

I agree!

And there are some marvelous shards for that.

I hadn't thought of druid spells, but frankly, if you let someone cast trees, you may deserve to be killed =) Maybe there is something on the coding side to make druid spells non effective in fel, for faction members only (similar to if they had negative karma)
Like Anarchy said, if I were to run into 3 people, by myself, I'd run like the dickens. I may have a lot of HP, but I can't beat 3 people beating down on me, especially if someone is using MS. I have two choices if MS'd: Stop to heal (sitting duck), or stop to fight and use LL on my wep (still sort of a sitting duck).

AGAIN: No PvP on a shard like ours will be balanced, even Events with custom gear handed to us.
You do not have to join if you don't want to PvP.

Instead of everyone being pessimistic about this, lets hear some ideas on what we could do to improve it. Or even help on the coding aspect or something.

Right. On the trash talk thing. We already have some bouts in [c every once and a while, which are ended quickly once people in [c point out that the involved look like fools, arguing over pixels in a virtual land. They subsequently shut up. Even then, Staff is on fairly often enough to throw around some warnings.

Instead of flaming people that kill you in [c, you could simply use [f (faction chat) to round up some buddies to come and gank the hell out of whoever killed you. Much simpler system, imo.

true forgot about the [f this sounds like fun rage on woot

+1

Why not a 24/48 hour faction Event.

Basic Rules as Doom
(say some stuff to enter)

Same Magic Gates that remove your Items.
(left with just your stats/skills)
(eliminates druid/omni books)
(removes trees)

Make your stuff once you get in via crafting area in each faction stronghold.
(this eliminates relayers)
(only differences are Stats/Skills/Ability)

Reese wrote:Why not a 24/48 hour faction Event.

Basic Rules as Doom
(say some stuff to enter)

Same Magic Gates that remove your Items.
(left with just your stats/skills)
(eliminates druid/omni books)
(removes trees)

Make your stuff once you get in via crafting area in each faction stronghold.
(this eliminates relayers)
(only differences are Stats/Skills/Ability)

I like that idea.

or

Maybe a 1 hour Royal Rumble. No hold bar, anything goes, last person standing wins. (I know maybe i watch too much WWE). but lets talk about it.
1. If everyone enter at all the same time.
2. able to bring whatever they want - Potions, pets, weapons, aides, regs, bio, etc
3. No res stone, - if you want to res, you need self Scarfice. Or see if anyone is willing to res you. but know that you can be killed as soon as you rez. (that could go bad, if everyone self res at the end. but that could be interesting as well)
4. no re-entry
5. stealth allowed
5. in one area - has to be reasonable large. I guess the pvp dungeon.
6. GM would have to ref it

With this, its more a gank feast, and NO ONE will be safe. Just like any Royal Rumble, ppl work together to take out ppl and all of a such attack each other. that be funny. Being sneaky will matter more than being aggressive. Just an idea.

how about we all join a guild and pvp everywhere also don't like the no re layer idea. do you know why?

With this, its more a gank feast, and NO ONE will be safe. Just like any Royal Rumble, ppl work together to take out ppl and all of a such attack each other. that be funny. Being sneaky will matter more than being aggressive. Just an idea.

nuff said.
or we could all join a guild then make it loot-able (i'm not wearing my re layers if i lose my stuff *i know bless/joining guild removes all bless only while in that guild. ) now that would be interesting to see. all the different gear make up of only gm'd items *because that's what most people would end up wearing due to ganks*unless running in a large pack i may break out a few items.

anarchy wrote: or we could all join a guild then make it loot-able (

first part yes second part no
+Colibri made it to where we can't even loot our own guild members corpses. Even in party.