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Frikkin Colors.

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I have never ever thought this was a good idea. I can understand guild pride and all that jazz, but this issue has finally effected me and so i'm going to complain. I know i'm the last person on this server that deserves sympathy for anything but that isn't what this is about, i'm not the only person this stupid rule has effected.

I dyed my skin 1953 I do not know how long ago, maybe a year, maybe a little less.

Blaze bud has been using that color for EVEN longer than me.

Neither of us wanted to 'steal' the color, aka, make an alt, grab a guild stone and dish out the 2 million to officially claim the color because we wanted other people to be able to use it.

And today some newb that can't speak english demands that i change it. Calls the cops on me when I don't, and then my ticket about it gets ignored and deleted.

This is a stupid freakin rule. You shouldn't be able to "claim" a color at all, it should not be an option...the price to add colors to your guild stone should be lowered to make it more of a convenience and less of an ownership thing.

We have the option to display our guild tags, that should be enough. "team spirit, hoohah" big fricken deal, reminds me of football crap, makes me want to vomit, its a color, why should any one person or group of people get to own it?


No idea why i am even complaining, its not like anything will get done, even if the community sides with me.
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Re: Frikkin Colors.

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Yes, I can see a few problems with the actual hue rules. If applied strictly, a guild could monopolise hue 1159 (as it is available in the hue show room). That color being also the hue for etheral leather, they could order every players having etheral armor to actually dye it an other color. When I founded the LMC guild, I chose a color that I found later to be the noble steed hue. There again, applied strictly, they could ask all noble steed owners to dye their pets... Not good :displeased:

At the same time I recognize and respect the possibility for guilds to have their "colors". Like sport teams. Having pride in wearing the team colors and making it easy to identify that a player belongs to a group. Therefore, I proposed here, a long time ago, that the exclusivity of a guild color should only apply to the robe slot as it is usually that part that covers the most pixels on the screen.
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Re: Frikkin Colors.

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i disagree. i think your mount has the most pixel area. :O then again forgot paperdoll and toon. nvm. :O that's why i did go on an alt and lock out this color. seems greedy but has to be done to protect the color i wanted. then again there are like 8 different green hues like this. :S
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If you have the hue before the guild exists, you get to keep it. IMO.
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If you have the hue before the guild exists, you get to keep it. IMO.
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Re: Frikkin Colors.

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Gwendolyn wrote: I dyed my skin 1953 I do not know how long ago, maybe a year, maybe a little less.

Blaze bud has been using that color for EVEN longer than me.
Yeah.. I was sporting that hue for over two years. One day after banksitting for a couple hours I come back to see a whole lot of grey clothing and a message from a staffer saying that some inconsiderate gang of newbs were demanding I make a change (not an exact quote, of course).

What gets me the most is that these players never even bothered to contact me directly .. I gladly would have made a deal with them to keep the color I feel suits me best.




But hey, that's what happens on a 'family shard' - only a matter of time before kiddies have their tantrums. Its no wonder I don't play here nearly as much as I'd like to. :(
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Post by Draconomicon »

Also consider the following scenario:

The purchase of a hue is 2 million gold pieces + 2mil gold per type (Metal armor, Leather Armor, Clothing, Shields, Weapons, Pets, Furniture(?) and Jewlery are a few I can think of). Right there it's a considerable investment! People wishing to be unique and stand out is perfectly normal.

Of those types, I found Cloth to be most useful (lol, I even dye my bandaids) : Most robes and cloaks and bags (etc.) can be dyed.

with 2 million gold you could buy (and Im sure you could haggle this down a bit) approximately 20 dyetubs, which is roughly the equivalent of your entire gear + 5 pets. The problem here is that you might find yourself later (as mentioned in above posts)
using the hue of another guild, and feel as though you have broken a rule, which is never extremely flattering in the moment.

I appreciate that a Universal Dyetub is exchanged to the player in these times however.
My skin was colored in a hue that was taken by another person, and no tub was given and my skin was changed to a color I did not even ask for.
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Re: Frikkin Colors.

Post by Angmmar »

Yeah i dont like this new rule too... i really dont care if someone else use the same or a colour like mine... maybe the colours on the armors, (in hue room) should not be purchased by anyone :dance ... the rest colours i dont care :lol:
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Just a quick comment, it's not as bad as it seems / was described.

As for hues such as 1159, or 1153 (ethy, platinum, or any material or other very common hue), they are not possible to reserve for guild use. About the noble steed color, I don't know whether that hue should also be restricted or not.

In such cases where a person had special colors before a guild reserved it, well in a way it's not nice that we just tell them to change it, but it's also that the guild has exclusive right to use it, so we try to work it out. Preferably they change their color, if not then hopefully the guild might understand the use of that one cloak or pet, and if not the final option is for the person to change the color. And we always supply the unitubs for such a change.

An improvement would be that those who dyed their items before the guild reserved the hue, would be allowed to keep them, but also when the guild is registering the hue, they would need to have some sort of overview of who is currently using the hue that they want.
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I know i'm probably too young on the shard to be listened to, but this idea of registering hues has a lot of downsides. People don't like just one colour, and get bored of it too. And forbid someone use a colour they like is, as stated above frustrating. Also its cutting away another way of people making money where dyes could be crafted and looted/found in other ways.
Wend people wanted to be unique they would use their imagination and combine different colours. Guilds don't need a registered colour to feel close. What if the shard starts to have enough guilds to grab most colours? Hard to happen just hypothetically.
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Post by fingers »

+Colibri wrote:
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An improvement would be that those who dyed their items before the guild reserved the hue, would be allowed to keep them, but [...]
+1 to that.

Also, is it really possible to reserve guild colors for each alt character on one account? If this is correct, I think it would be an improvment to limit it to one by account.
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Possible, but discouraged. I'm keeping an eye on this, so far i think there's about only 3 hues that are reserved this way, but yeah there aren't enough hues for anyone to reserve 5 (or 6) of them.
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Considering we lost half our population in one year's time maybe something could be done is all we're hinting at. Thanks and be well for the Holidays.
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