Champ spawn vote in at 3 full sides

[krystol]

remove vote
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here's a idea!
champ boss 1 damage scroll eligibility
a scroll tier system 100skillcap=110|+|115=120 []+10stat|+|to +50
random ps if -have +50stat/+120all skillcaps
#$gold check$
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haha i crack myself up.

[Danilo Thann]

Just tried to do a champ spawn. (Baracoon) But was legally overthrown at it. How lame. Basically i had no fun at it, because 4 members from a guild came rushing in and downed it within 15 minutes of me and a friend finding it. Not to mention i got flustered and missed out on a PS because I couldn't move to attack the Champ. I'm melee, my strength and my undoing i guess. I don't know what should be done. I like the idea of working for a champ spawn. (Agrees with The Watcher) My idea to find items to spawn a champ is something I'm still favoring. But i can tell you that for a family shard, having some one basically come from no where. Summon in 3 friends. Druid down the spawn & jack the champ without even saying hello or asking if they could help us down it, didn't make me feel good. True, need 8 candles before you have to vote on a champ spawn. Good idea to keep out people who show up late and want a reward. But am I being greedy because i wanted a little more respect then I got. Doesn't matter. Cause on this family shard, it seems people are only here for themselves, or those few close friends who think like them. I wish more people were like Blaze and Krazy G. But that's just wishful thinking. Only a small few of us can be great. The rest are just greedy it seems.

In my opinion, Champs shouldn't be on set timers... they should be random and by chance. Moving on with that statement, Champs shouldn't always spawn in the same locations either.

But that's just what I think.

[Adrias]

Barracoon is one champ that goes down extremely quickly when he is up. I know I have lost out on powerscrolls from him a few times. Would almost be nice if Champs toughness scaled with how many people were at the spawn.

Also I don't get the hatred at people who use pets during the spawn and sitting in other peoples trees. They are likely newer players so it is difficult for them to stand out spamming heals on their pets. Also how are they doing less work than you starting your razor/ezuo macro and watching tv the entire time? I do understand how it is annoying when a couple people mob the champ immediately with their pets though (see barracoon dying in seconds) but maybe you should ask them to only use one pet on the champ so that it is easier for others to get in damage instead of just ranting on the forums about it.

[TheWatcher]

Also I don't get the hatred at people who use pets during the spawn and sitting in other peoples trees. They are likely newer players so it is difficult for them to stand out spamming heals on their pets. Also how are they doing less work than you starting your razor/ezuo macro and watching tv the entire time? I do understand how it is annoying when a couple people mob the champ immediately with their pets though (see barracoon dying in seconds) but maybe you should ask them to only use one pet on the champ so that it is easier for others to get in damage instead of just ranting on the forums about it.

Your second statement is the reason for the hatred. I have been in many champs where people are in my trees with pets. I send PMs saying please dont use any pets or only one on the champ, when i get the reply telling me to mind my own business. BY the time i drop my trees and start on the champ he is close to finished. Once i sropped my trees early so i could prepare for the champ to drop, then i was abused for letting them down on purpose so i could do the champ alone while the younger player ressed.... annoyed me like you wouldnt believe....

I have some time to cool down and think about this topic and it still annoys the hell out of me

TheWatcher
My2c

[Hanamichi]

I firmly agree that champs are fine as they are. Let's be honest if I sit around for 10 minutes clear that champ and someone comes in with it 75% finished and they just have smoking gear and they handle the boss and I get squat how does that say "it's fair?" I personally have never been allowed in a champ spawn by guilded people. Which is something I can understand, they was here first and they deserve the loot, which is why I employ that same degree in allowing people to join my champ spawn. Let's be honest if you run around and look for champ spawns you WILL find them, if you sit around the bank waiting for a role call for a Champ don't be hating if you don't get let in, or miss it.

Anyways what gives anyone the right to roll in my champ spawn when I've been there forever clearing and they are let in and have amazing gear and just whack everything down like a machine gun, when did it become fair for me at that point? First come first serve is the name of the game.

And I don't know about anyone else, but it doesn't take me 10 minutes to clear a champ, more like 30+ (on a good day) by myself not to mention how many times I die in the process. I think I earned the right to keep the loot.

[Danilo Thann]

Once again, people think it is easy to find champ spawns. Not as easy as everyone thinks it is... All the spawns are on a timer, which means as soon as you figure one out you can be there everyday at the same time. Multiply this by several people/guilds and there aren't enough Champion spawns. I run a pretty smooth guild, with the help of some awesome officers, and when we go champ hunting we are lucky to find one a night. It isn't about the PS, though they certainly help and give motivation, its about the group atmosphere and the fun of it. Something i believe this server is loosing each day. UO was never something to do alone, but rather something to do with your friends every day. Now a days, people solo Champ spawns and complain about changes to their money flow. Really, 50 million gold wasn't enough for you?
So, to the new players, farm gold and buy from the PS farmers. Stop whinning, or i'll have to PK you in my mind.

I find satisfaction in the changes that +Colibri is bringing to the table, as of late. Because to me, champion spawns are like the Staff run auctions lately... I sit down to attend one and find out within 5 minutes that I can't afford to do either, whether its because i don't have enough gold, or because some one else just tagged along and ruined the fun part of a champion spawn... the so called effort of downing one.

"40 minutes, not 40 seconds, go away and take yer steroids with you." (re-layers, druid spell books)

Maybe tomorrow, +Colibri will figure out a better sollution to champion spawns, like the addition of more HP on all of them awhile back, but until then start adding to the game. Taking away from it just makes everyone despise you, ask PaPa. Does he even play anymore? Bet he doesnt sell ED's at 125k a piece any more either. (hugs PaPa) it's okay, im just pointing out some truth... no offense, though the truth often does hurt some one.

But what do i know? Check out The Harpers, and find out how we do things... you might be surpised. Been a long time since any one wearing the Harper tag said they were bored. Heck even our Crafters have fun. (because we have Tavern night and drink so much ale that the pitchers stack to the ceiling)

-Danilo Thann- ☼GM☼ The Harper's Guild

[Hanamichi]

I've been thinking and this is a good way to setup it up. Leave it as it is but, make a prespawn for the skulls, like mobs will spawn for X amount of minutes before the champ begins (or you could make some indicator that it's about ready to start, maybe flames exploding around it). Thus peeps would knwo it's getting ready to start and would have the opportunity to get peeps there. But if no one fails to come in time, I think that's fair. I mean if you change it too much it's like giving away the hard work of people clearing it.

[Thorgal]

Im sorry to say «finding champs is realy easy»! My guildmates found all spawn timer in just 2 days, they just split up into teams and went out looking for them, so now they can do all the champs one after the other. Didn't take much work and it wasn't hard at all! So my suggestion to all of those who whine about champs is; go out there and look for them, get your guildmates involved, and there are ways of getting there real fast, its called a bracelet of bindings, use it!

Now people are complaining about players who come in at the last minute and join champs... just dont accept them in! A champ is over so quickly that i dont see why anything should be changed!

My 2 cents!

[krystol]

heres something about champs and bracelets of binding:

i came out of the sanctuary and was running to baracoon
guild says baracoon is up, starts summoning other guild members there
they ask me if i want a summon, i say no im just passing orc caves
i get there and its 3/4 done, although 75% of the people there doing all the work were in my guild voting yes to me
i still didnt get in.

what should i make of this?

[Side]

running to coon is risky business. =/

[Zanther]

Nothing can be made of it. You said so yourself you got there when it was 3/4 done.
You got there late and were not voted in pretty simple if you ask me.

[krystol]

i think you missed my point. it was that i was about 2 minutes or less away from the champ b4 it spawned and on route to it.
i guess i should also add that there were people accepted into another champ, this was after i was declined and left.