Balron farming solution

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Muolke wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:04 pm
Some people spend their gold on housing, some on deco, and some on gear. I make gold dozens of ways…it’s an all-encompassing strategy. Interestingly enough, one of my most profitable ventures was lending out gold to people last year when we had that mega/grand auction. You just have to know when to play and when to watch.
That there is rich guy talk. Quite correct of course. But very rich guy talk.
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Too many players at balrons right now. Not sure if you even need to do anything. I personally would not do balrons if I see 3 others there. Sometimes even with 2 others not worth it.
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Muolke wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:04 pm
one of my most profitable ventures was lending out gold to people last year when we had that mega/grand auction.
Should we now address you as Don Muolke? :lool:

Making offers people can't refuse? :D Just kidding around.
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scroft391 wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:14 pm
Muolke wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:04 pm
one of my most profitable ventures was lending out gold to people last year when we had that mega/grand auction.
Should we now address you as Don Muolke? :lool:

Making offers people can't refuse? :D Just kidding around.
Funny enough, several people were very upset that I came up with the idea to lend players gold and they would pawn items to me until the debt is paid off.
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Muolke wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:40 pm
scroft391 wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:14 pm
Muolke wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:04 pm
one of my most profitable ventures was lending out gold to people last year when we had that mega/grand auction.
Should we now address you as Don Muolke? :lool:

Making offers people can't refuse? :D Just kidding around.
Funny enough, several people were very upset that I came up with the idea to lend players gold and they would pawn items to me until the debt is paid off.

:roll: Doesn't surprise me
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Muolke wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:40 pm
Funny enough, several people were very upset that I came up with the idea to lend players gold and they would pawn items to me until the debt is paid off.
You weren't the first person to do it, just the first person to advertise. Some folks thought that gauche.
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Simple solution: Random spawn of Balrons anywhere within the dungeon not a static location.

Lurg Cave: No recall in or out.

Yamadon: Enlarged spawn zone.

Those 3 fixes should force people to actively hunt the more lucrative pop in/pop out targets.

The recall Penalty for excessive recalling is a great idea but I'm afraid it would impact other gameplay like mining for a specific ore, tmap hunting, IDOC events, etc...

Mana regen: seems like too involved a fix
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arrow wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:31 pm
The recall Penalty for excessive recalling is a great idea but I'm afraid it would impact other gameplay like mining for a specific ore, tmap hunting, IDOC events, etc...
I didn't think of that. Yeah, IDOCing would be totally fouled.
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After all the talk about the balrons and the huge problem they are for Excelsior's economy, I thought it would be a good idea to have a list of how much each player has spent during the 2022 and 2023 auctions.

Well, I have taken the time to do it myself, here are the results.

I may have made some mistake in reading the data so I apologize in advance if that is the case, but I will also post the data that I used to get the result as well as the code written in python to process the data.

There will be 3 different files:
  • auction.txt: Is the data i used, took from Wil's post in forum after every auction
  • auction.py: Is the code i used to transform the data into excel and pdf after that
  • auction.pdf: Are the actual results, sorted by the sum of all 3 currencies
You can download the Zip with all 3 files clicking HERE
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Zeee- I was thinking you had not bought anything at auction for the last couple years and were saving up for that totem. looks like that was pretty close to it. and if i had not spent so much on little things at every auction my balance would have been high enough to get that Ancient Composite bow when it was finally offered. *sigh*
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zeeeqi wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:02 am
After all the talk about the balrons and the huge problem they are for Excelsior's economy, I thought it would be a good idea to have a list of how much each player has spent during the 2022 and 2023 auctions.
Nice data! I added in the earlier auctions I could find going back to when I started posting results in 2019, normalized it to gold and approximated the equivalent donation USD:

2654014000 $5358 zanzi
2347023189 $4738 muolke
1717600000 $3467 gilga
1592010000 $3214 kairoz
1473000000 $2973 zeeeqi
1089150000 $2198 john warren
1049380000 $2118 semtex
850000000 $1716 maddnes
766300000 $1547 fist
750600000 $1515 egore
737600000 $1489 paroxysmus
673000000 $1358 lion
607400000 $1226 kitty hawk
567000000 $1144 ivy
456500000 $921 handmade
430000000 $868 goliath
415131000 $838 culichi
410000000 $827 erebus
400000000 $807 zohan
378400000 $763 tarkin lamere
376500000 $760 butterybiscuits
373190000 $753 celtarus
320000000 $646 alejandro
300400000 $606 dark phantom
300000000 $605 iltar
280000000 $565 sheidheda
261500000 $527 mayunia
252000000 $508 deckard
237300000 $479 wil
233500000 $471 animol
200000000 $403 pekto
191000000 $385 michiko
186100000 $375 arrow
177900000 $359 psicopata
170000000 $343 rosa
170000000 $343 jobs
144000000 $290 zeratul
140000000 $282 gaara
120400000 $243 mr.j
105300000 $212 montolio
104000000 $209 billy blacksmith
96000000 $193 cameron majere
94000000 $189 thormax
87500000 $176 forrestelf
80000000 $161 riverwynd
77850000 $157 eboj
70500000 $142 nik
69400000 $140 filraen rilyntar
63000000 $127 bexley providnce
57480000 $116 lazarro's lady
56000000 $113 devlin
54400000 $109 lexus
50300000 $101 mrs.chicken
48280000 $97 ringthane
46400000 $93 tuala
46300000 $93 hereck
46000000 $92 sweet olive
44600000 $90 praise
43000000 $86 player one
42100000 $84 chrysanthe
41500000 $83 diz
41000000 $82 django
40500000 $81 eless
34800000 $70 tank
34000000 $68 skinwalker
33300000 $67 lucretia
30000000 $60 que
29886000 $60 blood raven
29250000 $59 lust
28100000 $56 zodiac
28000000 $56 roland
27300000 $55 acolyte
26880000 $54 handrius
26750000 $54 faruk
26150000 $52 acidbern
26000000 $52 matrix
26000000 $52 entora
25900000 $52 xerxes
24900000 $50 snydly
24400000 $49 rae'zon
24300000 $49 luna kartini
24000000 $48 grundick
23800000 $48 tarrah
23000000 $46 sister nicci
21500000 $43 hazardous
21500000 $43 dirksanchez
20900000 $42 wonderbread
20900000 $42 glorier
18800000 $37 nme
18150000 $36 nick of old
17400000 $35 dreamstalker
17000000 $34 talibur
17000000 $34 garner
16600000 $33 ashrond
15100000 $30 minoss
15100000 $30 magnus trinn
15000000 $30 cortez
13900000 $28 harry the hermit
13000000 $26 orionesss
13000000 $26 neytiri
13000000 $26 kontar
12300000 $24 isiah
12000000 $24 athena tenebris
10900000 $22 cezzar
10100000 $20 zinbat
10000000 $20 killgarrah
7765000 $15 captain ahab
7400000 $14 tabitha
6800000 $13 vara
6600000 $13 penfold
6300000 $12 nikolatesla
6200000 $12 apocalypse
5800000 $11 nikki-
5700000 $11 blackhawk
5530000 $11 starfire
5100000 $10 pippi
4100000 $8 slim shady
4100000 $8 sedril
4100000 $8 garth
3900000 $7 mindfreak
3400000 $6 alecs
3300000 $6 ghosthunter
2850000 $5 hermitor
1900000 $3 jaedyn
1600000 $3 bash
1300000 $2 dkor
510000 $1 firon
430000 $0 alice in chains
360000 $0 fab
130000 $0 saber knight

Total spent at the covered auctions: 26 billion gold, which had it been a solely a result of donations would be somewhere around $50,000 US.

I missed a couple auctions, so the list is not complete. I still think Muolke is the richest player on the shard. Auctions are not the sole expression of a player's wealth. Nevertheless, I have to concede the possibility that he's only second place.
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Nice to be able to see older auction information!

But be careful because you made a few mistakes, for example considering 2 different names as 2 different persons.
  • Goliath and Sheidheda
  • Kairoz and Deckard
  • Nik and Wonderbread
  • Muolke and Zohan (He was using the disguise kit when he bought the ATH, that's why there's a different name)
Don't know if there are more, but these are the ones i know.

Also another mistake, was counting twice when i bought the change weapon specials, there were 2 bids because Egore said he couldn't bid so +C auctioned the deed again, it looks like i paid 190M for one and 250M, but i only bought the second one.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to bring up data from previous auctions.

P.S: Didn't know i could upload zip files directly here, that's why i've been uploading to wetransfer....
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zeeeqi wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:38 pm
considering 2 different names as 2 different persons.
Sure. We all have 5 or 6 character slots on our account. Should we want to disguise auction purchases, it's no chore to create a new character each time.

zeeeqi wrote:
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  • Muolke and Zohan (He was using the disguise kit when he bought the ATH, that's why there's a different name)
Hah! If accurate, that brings Muolke distinctly above Zanzi on the list. I figured he's the richest.
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Wil wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:47 pm
zeeeqi wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:38 pm
considering 2 different names as 2 different persons.
Sure. We all have 5 or 6 character slots on our account. Should we want to disguise auction purchases, it's no chore to create a new character each time.

zeeeqi wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:38 pm
  • Muolke and Zohan (He was using the disguise kit when he bought the ATH, that's why there's a different name)
Hah! If accurate, that brings Muolke distinctly above Zanzi on the list. I figured he's the richest.
You are right, that's why i posted some names that are actually the same character, and saying Muolke is the richest is not totally accurate... He's been who has spent more gold in last 3 years auction, but we need to take in accout the wealth people have after paying that much money.

In my case i have spent over 1 Billion gold but my actual wealth is Negative 80 millions because a friend had to loan me gold to be able to buy the totem i had been saving gold to buy it for 1 year.

If someone spent 500M but has 1B he would be richer than me for example.
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If anyone has time, read through entire post from start to finish (this thread and another one that is active). I need a recap of what has been posted that are FACTS and what are NOT. There are a lot of people feeling a certain way. There are a lot of assumptions. Even with posting data on auctions.
I agreed 100% data is accurate based on who purchased the item. Quite a few have purchased items for others. People that I have purchased items for knows that so don't need to clarify here.

Bottom line is there are people who do not like each other (game playing style). We are all adults. Just because you like someone, everything they said or did is great. Then there is the opposite. Everything is horrible if you don't like them. Read over the content. It could not have been more obvious.

There are individuals I like more than others. But I try my best to stick to the facts.

If I have a script and I tried to sell for 100m and someone said yes, I am not sure I would say JK, wouldnt sell it...or would I go for it?

Can we at least agree to posting facts?
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