Ugh, the old bug has evolved to a complex life form

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Hi. I use Windows 10 (with extensive efforts to successfully stop data mining on my pc by Microsoft) for my media and gaming pc, and Win 7 pro for as my work pc which has -nothing- running except front page, photo shop, my fav version of paint shop pro and auto cad and few other similar programs. yadda yadda.
In the past I have had to deal with the problem of the "out of memory error" and worked out the solution posted for it in the forums (which worked), and have had no problems up until about two weeks ago.
About two weeks ago, I got the "not enough memory" error on my media pc. I had already done the folder location change etc etc to Program Files/Ultima Online etc. So this time I went in and eliminated anything running that did not absolutely need to be there for windows 10 to function (I only run 3 games on my media pc and nothing else). I still can not open UO. Nothing running in the background. Nothing running in the foreground. It tells me the same msg.
At about the same time, I decided to load UO on my work comp, just to have a control to compare the issue to something I've been using for a long time that works. I got the same issue. So, being a fresh new copy of Win7, I decided to format and reload it to eliminate any chance of it having any bugs added to it from the programs I use. I loaded Win7 after a thorough format, installed all updates that pertain to this pc, loaded Avast then loaded Excelsior UO. I then set everything to run as admin etc.
I still got the same error. I cleared the MSCONFIG start up list for programs and services. I then went through and stopped all services that are not need to run a base win7 OS, and still get the same msg upon trying to open UO. There was absolutely nothing running but UO.
The work pc is new. It has 16 gigs RAM. It is built for programs that use much much much much much much more memory than UO and does not slow down when multitasking them which leads me to believe that my less powerful media pc isn't inferior after all.

This only happens with UO. I love this game. I love Excelsior. It's awesome. So much is obviously changing though and this compatibility issue only seems to get worse with the progress of mainstream OS's.
I am literally willing to dedicate a pc to running an OS that is Friendly to this version of UO just to be able to game here without this issue.

Is there a better operating system for this that works a bit better? It's not that I can't get the game to work in the end, but I would just rather have a pc that can run it without the aggravation every time.

*edit* oh yeah, I also always keep v-memory at the appropriate max setting. You just never know when ya need it.
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have you tried using VMplayer to create a virtual Windows 7? Try creating one and only assigning two gigs of ram to the vm. UO seems to not want to work with anything more than the first two gigs.
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I use the following small program and have had no further issues.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threa ... re.112556/
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I save and shut off everything. Then I restart, and start up UO as soon as humanly possible so it is the first thing using up the memory. Works like a charm every time. Doesn't happen often, but when it does, it seems to fix it for a while.
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I believe it is something along the lines of UO can only see a certain amount of memory, no matter how much you have. So once the memory it can see is used, it assumes there is no more left. So with the restart, it hopefully will the be first to use that memory, so it will start up without a hitch.
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patrix wrote:I use the following small program and have had no further issues.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threa ... re.112556/
I found this to be the optimum solution, and will be included in the next client patch by default. For now, you can use the program yourself to fix client.exe file so that it's compatible with new windows.

this issue seems to be more frequent with Win10 users, but it's been here since Win7 - actually since we added a lot of custom graphics in the client.
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+C, I believe it's been an issue since the game originally came out.
I know I've had the trouble for many years.
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+Colibri wrote:
patrix wrote:I use the following small program and have had no further issues.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threa ... re.112556/
I found this to be the optimum solution, and will be included in the next client patch by default. For now, you can use the program yourself to fix client.exe file so that it's compatible with new windows.
According to the documentation for the large address aware program, using it can cause the software to fail on 32-bit windows machines and machines with 3 gigs or less ram. So you have to be aware of what machine you're installing on before using it.
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I run Windows 10 and had this problem from the start with windows 10... The first thing I tried fixed the problem and has never came back since...

Here was my fix...

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Right-Click on the uo shortcut or client.exe itself
Choose properties
go to the Compatibility tab
In the Compatibility mode box check Run this program in compatibility mode for: 
Select Windows 7
Click Apply then OK
Never had a problem since...

***Note***
I also did this with razor...
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Incognito wrote:I run Windows 10 and had this problem from the start with windows 10... The first thing I tried fixed the problem and has never came back since...

Here was my fix...

Code: Select all

Right-Click on the uo shortcut or client.exe itself
Choose properties
go to the Compatibility tab
In the Compatibility mode box check Run this program in compatibility mode for: 
Select Windows 7
Click Apply then OK
Never had a problem since...

***Note***
I also did this with razor...
Yes, I think the best advice would be that any setting you use to get UO to run, you'd better set anything that works with UO too. Like Razor, EasyUO, etc.
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In win 10 make sure u turn off cortana
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