Excelsior

Just to inform everyone that a few of us bio engineer got together and worked out some prices for each bio to try and make the bio market more stable so here's the list we came up with

Poison Attack Bios 5.5 mil
Blunt attack Bios 6 mil
Counter Heal Bios 7 mil
Prices are based of the Counter NOT the specials all Counters cost the same regardless of there specials

Also if you want your bio to have armor made by the Bio Engineer its a separate cost to be determine by the individual Engineer

Also we all agreed to not buy Organics for anything over 200 Gp (Reason for this more we spend on Organics the more the bios cost will go up) So for those of you collecting organics and putting them on exex keep this In mind

So if your interested in buying a bio just throw out a pm to Anarchy, Zar Ivan, Or Myself (Rossi)

lame how a few players can monopolize a game and the economy. i say boycott these clowns, which is real easy with these prices.

there's always a way to get around this. make your own bio. i support our trust.

Considering you need about 6k luck to be able to make a bio, there are very few people who can do it. When only a few people control the market, they could really take advantage of the situation. However these guys have standardized their prices, and from what I've seen during my time here, the prices are about bang on. I don't know the other guy, but I trust Anarchy and Rossi to be good guys.

Just my 2 cents.

Now im all for capitalizem and if I could make the same product for 500k less than these prices and take all their business I would however their profit margin is so low that it doesn't really justify the investment necessarily to do it. So to call these ppl clowns is childish and show cases your ignorence. What your really getting is deal, the best product, at a price that is better than you could provide for yourself.

anarchy i know other 2 im not sure and i know for a fact anarchy will not set any price to b greedy like some ppl will on this shard he is there to help and plus its supply and demand either u buy one of theres or u dont and u try and make one either good or u fail miserably so ive seen prices go up and down my 4 months here and id have to say even with me haveing imps i still want one of anarchys bios maybee 2 bios in time and for ppl thats getting organics why not sell to them instead of exex and if ur planning on one day getting a bio just save all your organics and give them what organics is needed to drop the price of the type of bio u want there are plenty of ways to make a price where u want it but i know these ppl will not cut there throat to please some few angry ppl that are jealous of what they cannot do just get over it and b happy there not charging 20 mill a bio with them being main ones who can make it they easly could but they have the creditablty not to stoop to that level of greed ok my 2 cents u may like what i said or not either way thats my say

I agree with Nick, most ppl do not know what is required to make bios and the thousands of organics you need to make the vials. On top of that you gotta be super lucky to take samples of each of the required DNA's with 50/50 percent of failure. Their prices are pretty standard since most bio-makers were charging 7 mill for the counter healing bios back then.

Is pretty simple.... if you don't like the price tag don't buy from them.... make your own one! I know anarchy and zar ivan, rossi is a respectable bio maker, too bad when I needed a bio he wasn't around...but this guys have good reputation if you ask me.

Peace!

i remember the first bio i bought. counter healing/ ice blast. paid 300 eds. i thought to myself when i did that. man that's a lot for a pet. i'm gonna try to make it cheaper for peeps, because that's not fair. but it's also not fair to be cutting so low i kill other people out of the market. this game is suppose to be fun for both the buyers and the sellers. i'd love to see zar and rossi make a profit, and they both agreed that there's a point to making too much profit.


here's the cost of a bio break down

gear: at least 60 luck deeds (i have over 7200 luck)- or 6k eds worth. or 600 euro worth or 870 USDs

mimic--really depends on luck for counter healing trial by fire can cost between 1-5 mil depends on luck and individual luck.
(if you don't fail creating a empty vial and don't fail at a sample)
mental- 200k (if you don't fail creating a empty vial and don't fail at a sample)
environmental- 200k (if you don't fail creating a empty vial and don't fail at a sample)
prowess- 200k-1 mil depends on luck and individual luck (if you don't fail creating a empty vial and don't fail at a sample)
empty dna vials- 1 mil (if you don't fail creating a empty vial and don't fail at a sample)
bio pet deed- 200k (if you don't fail creating a empty vial and don't fail at a sample)

so estimated cost per bio:
max: 7.8 mil + 870 USDs
min: 2 mil if very very lucky + 870 USDs

I think these prices are fair... I've been in the bio game for a long long time though some of you younger guys don't know me cause I've been inactive last 6 months or so but when i was coming up in the world bios sold for 10-20 mil and i told myself i can sell them for way less... Profit is not what I'm looking for here I'm here to provide bios to the masses at a FAIR price as are Anarchy and Zar...i can only speak for myself here but my mass fortune did not come from the sells of bios but from the tip of my hammer in dungeons day after day... So to say were trying to monopolize on the bio market is not only idiotic but an offense to what were trying to do make Bios cheaper for the younger players... we came up with these prices for the bios at a bar minimum of profit as anarchy put it we spent a lot of $$$ to get our luck and we wont see that returned to us EVER.... but when the bare minimal to make a bio will cost you just in organics 5.5 mil (if you don't fail making vile set or vials and you sample perfect every time) i would say these prices are spot on and if you cant trust my word read up on Wiki what it takes to make a bio and do the calculations yourself... Or try and make your own bio and spend 5X the amount and not even pop out a Maxed....

John. Warren.


I mean.... I agree with what the bio engineers are saying. If you have been around for a bit these are solid bio prices, not overly expensive. I'd like to know what sort of discounts you get if i bring my own vial sets and orgs to the table. I would prefer to get the DNA all made so i can still double click it and get crafted by <me> tag on the bio...

Well i think anarchy perfectly stole what i was about to say but I'll restate what he said, so if you think 7 mill is unfair for a bio then donate 900 bucks, plus the relayers you have to have to go to the places you get the DNA and gather enough cash in game for all the gear and stuff you'll need and make your own freaking bios and PLEASE, PLEASE try selling em for a lower price lets see how you do that Mr. Oh selling bios for 7 mill and making a complot for changing the prices is too mainstream hahaha lol

As a note i remember when i bought my 3 bios my little Fierce Kitteh, and my two human bios... Payed over 40 mill for the 3 of em, and actually at that time that wasn't such a bad price lol... so I'd be pretty thankful to buy a bio for 7 mil...

Mr. RainyRainRainerstein

My gripe is anarchy is overstocked as he stated in his bio thread, prices ranged from 2.5m to 3.5m. Suddenly the 3 bio makers on the shard get together and double the prices. i dont plan on buying a bio now nor making one. there are far better uses i can put 7m to then adding another pet. you all can keep patting them on the back just dont expect me to.

re-illiterate for omni

but it's also not fair to be cutting so low i kill other people out of the market.

a boycott of 1 how is that working for ya? also, if you didn't plan on buying one why post on the thread? o.O

So your grip is that because the bios arnt on sell anymore your not gonna buy them? So if your local grocery store puts a sell on then takes the sell away your just gonna boycott them too?

if ALL the markets got together to fix prices then yes i would boycott them. Now if your going bring rl into this then please read your state & federal laws about market monopolization and collusive price fixing.