Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:33 am
Nice try but noIf you're on the same page you're being stagnant
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Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:44 am
Yes, in the first part of the post I was disagreeing with you. You said that changes should be made because
change is always good, and I disagree with that.
About the part you quoted:
By meeting in the middle I meant the 8 candle rule. Lets the people who worked
for the champ keep it, and if you're just 2 minutes late you can still get in. It is good as it is. Changing it
won't change the fact that someone will complain about 10 candle rule because they check the champs
randomly.
As for the third option: +Colibri has already mentioned that limiting the amount of champs
one can do per day. Maybe he will add that. It would let those who put effort into finding champs keep
them, and let others have some too.
In the end, no matter how many changes they make, it'll be up to players to make it work. Manners
can't be scripted in C#. Not sure about Python, might be a module for them..
change is always good, and I disagree with that.
About the part you quoted:
By meeting in the middle I meant the 8 candle rule. Lets the people who worked
for the champ keep it, and if you're just 2 minutes late you can still get in. It is good as it is. Changing it
won't change the fact that someone will complain about 10 candle rule because they check the champs
randomly.
As for the third option: +Colibri has already mentioned that limiting the amount of champs
one can do per day. Maybe he will add that. It would let those who put effort into finding champs keep
them, and let others have some too.
In the end, no matter how many changes they make, it'll be up to players to make it work. Manners
can't be scripted in C#. Not sure about Python, might be a module for them..
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:56 am
no matter how many changes they make, it'll be up to players to make it work. Manners
can't be scripted in C#
el oh el so darn true
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:37 am
player.Behave() ;Penny wrote:In the end, no matter how many changes they make, it'll be up to players to make it work. Manners
can't be scripted in C#. Not sure about Python, might be a module for them..
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Return code 101: Object doesn't want to do that.Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:31 am
I have to agree with Penny on 1 thing and that pretty much says it all, those 2 people that were there and didn't wanna share probably waited for it an hour, so basicaly its their right... If anyone wants to do a champ bad ennough, well start camping! My guildmate are running around like crazy to find the champs and timers, they work their @$$es off for hour at a time to find them, why should someone who happens to be strolling by be able to join in, to me doing a champ is the end game, finding it is the real work, so everyone should stop complaining and asking for changes and just start working for them! It's basicaly another case of «I want everything and i want it now without working for it»
This topic should be closed in my opinion, but thats just me right?
This topic should be closed in my opinion, but thats just me right?
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:03 pm
Not just you.Thorgal wrote:This topic should be closed in my opinion, but thats just me right?
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:02 pm
less than 6 peeps is kind of a waste. most 2 people can get is 2 power scrolls ea. then again. like peeps said you can't make everyone happy. always someone complaining about something. too much drama with champs. i say just get rid of them. 
have the power scrolls randomly appear throughout dungeons like the nobles. 110-115 tram side. 120 fel side. can't camp them and makes people who put time and effort in getting them worth it.
have the power scrolls randomly appear throughout dungeons like the nobles. 110-115 tram side. 120 fel side. can't camp them and makes people who put time and effort in getting them worth it. Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:44 am
Just be serious, you want more and more candles up before you gotta come. If +C changes it, you'll want 12, and after that 14 etc.
This is how it should go, there is NO VOTE to join HOWEVER, at X amount of skulls you no longer receive gold, but you are rewarded a powerscroll for coming (should you assist with DPSing down the Champ spawn boss). Problem solved, thank you for coming.
This is how it should go, there is NO VOTE to join HOWEVER, at X amount of skulls you no longer receive gold, but you are rewarded a powerscroll for coming (should you assist with DPSing down the Champ spawn boss). Problem solved, thank you for coming.
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:56 am
What if there's already 6 people, though?Hanamichi wrote:This is how it should go, there is NO VOTE to join HOWEVER, at X amount of skulls you no longer receive gold, but you are rewarded a powerscroll for coming (should you assist with DPSing down the Champ spawn boss). Problem solved, thank you for coming.
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:05 am
How bout this....
Everytime a champ is completed everyone online at the time gets a 120 PS of their choice and a check for 100k.
Everytime a champ is completed everyone online at the time gets a 120 PS of their choice and a check for 100k.
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:06 am
I don't care about 6 people, everyone should be allowed to join, but whomever was there within X amount of skulls gets $$, and those who didn't make it on time can join but don't receive any money.Gershaw wrote:What if there's already 6 people, though?Hanamichi wrote:This is how it should go, there is NO VOTE to join HOWEVER, at X amount of skulls you no longer receive gold, but you are rewarded a powerscroll for coming (should you assist with DPSing down the Champ spawn boss). Problem solved, thank you for coming.
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:28 pm
Let's keep it the way it is. It works. Getting left out sometimes sucks but its not a reason to change everything.
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:26 pm
I don't think people join the champ for the money... and even if they did and come in late that means that they don't get any gold... so why join in the first place? The main reason is mostly for the powerscrolls and if you allow EVERYONE in, that means that everybody that is more powerful than you and/or deals the most damage to the champ boss gets a scroll. And there are only 6 scrolls and 20+ ppl.... So, can you imagine the frustration most ppl have?Hanamichi wrote:I don't care about 6 people, everyone should be allowed to join, but whomever was there within X amount of skulls gets $$, and those who didn't make it on time can join but don't receive any money.Gershaw wrote:What if there's already 6 people, though?Hanamichi wrote:This is how it should go, there is NO VOTE to join HOWEVER, at X amount of skulls you no longer receive gold, but you are rewarded a powerscroll for coming (should you assist with DPSing down the Champ spawn boss). Problem solved, thank you for coming.
I don't do champs because I feel that it's not fair for the one that wants to join or the one that was already there. In another shard that I have played there were no public champs and the only private champs 6 ppl where allowed to do it at a time and on a 24 hours basis. Meaning that the same ppl can not do a champ after 24 hours.
I hope I didn't offended the vets or the newbies or the ones in between, since for the time I have been here it's only grief and frustration that the champs brings, its very hard to regulate it in a way that everybody gets equal shares of the pie. If you don' t like it then do what I do and that is make gold by hunting and when u have amassed a lot of it then buy the powerscrolls.
Perhaps powerscrolls should be a random drop by hard mobs, something that requires team (guild) work or a group of ppl that are un-guilded. This is just my thought....
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:20 pm
From the days of me being a newb I started doing champs. I found it fun and exciting. Everyone has the same chance, the current system couldn't be anymore fair. Like has been said 800 million times, if you want to do champs, put your time in to find them. I don't understand the trend of people crying about champs.
I think this thread started about the newb champ. When i was doing it, all were always welcomed in, because as newbs we needed the help. If its different now, well, give it 21 days and it will be a whole new batch. I'd be willing to bet that most time, people get accepted in.
And FYI, 6 is not the max number of PS you can get. Check the link that has already been posted in this thread for the correct information.
Here is a quote for the ppl to lazy to find it
"CHANGE Champions now drop 1 powerscroll per person. There's a chance of them dropping double scrolls (two per person), 50% if one participant, 20% if two participants, 10% if three participants."
I think this thread started about the newb champ. When i was doing it, all were always welcomed in, because as newbs we needed the help. If its different now, well, give it 21 days and it will be a whole new batch. I'd be willing to bet that most time, people get accepted in.
And FYI, 6 is not the max number of PS you can get. Check the link that has already been posted in this thread for the correct information.
Here is a quote for the ppl to lazy to find it
"CHANGE Champions now drop 1 powerscroll per person. There's a chance of them dropping double scrolls (two per person), 50% if one participant, 20% if two participants, 10% if three participants."
Re: Candle count!!
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:41 am
And yet there's still quite a few new players who participate in the Newbie Spawn don't get one. It might be related to doing enough damage against the Champion, but I think us new fellas are having a hard time doing that without pets, right now. Plenty of people haven't gotten scrolls from helping with the Newb Champ.Melkor wrote:"CHANGE Champions now drop 1 powerscroll per person. There's a chance of them dropping double scrolls (two per person), 50% if one participant, 20% if two participants, 10% if three participants."