Double Strike VS Crushing Blow

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kivan78
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Double Strike VS Crushing Blow

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Hi,
i need to have a very precise information about these two abilities, because i need to spend 200 ed on a weapon change deed ;)

these infos are taken from UOGUIDE.COM and i need a confirmation that it works like this even in this shard:

Crushing Blow: cost 20 Mana, increases the caster's damage by 50%
Double Strike: cost 30 Mana, allows an attacker to strike their opponent twice in the next single round of combat, There is a -10% damage penalty for this special move

To me, if the abilities are coded like this, it's a no brainer, double strike wins without a doubt:
if you can max your swing time and can continuosly chain the special move with mana leech we have:

Crushing Blow : 150% Damage + magic hit for weapon (harm,fireball,lightn,magicArrow) every 1.25 SEC
Double Strike: 90% Damage + magic hit for weapon (harm,fireball,lightn,magicArrow) every 0.625 SEC

Let's imagine a scenario where hit damage is 100 average and magic damage is 50 average over a span of 1 minute:

Crushing blow: 150+50 * 48 (swings in one minute) = 9600 Damage
Double Strike: 90 + 50 * 96 (swings in one minute) = 13440 Damage (+3840 damage)

if we have a higher magic damage for example 80 we have :

Crushing blow: 150+80 * 48 (swings in one minute) = 11040 Damage
Double Strike: 90 + 80 * 96 (swings in one minute) = 16320 Damage (+5280 damage)

Obviously the mana cost is higher (calculation made with Mana cost decrease 40% - cap):
Crushing Blow: 12 --> (x2) 24 (spam ability malus cost)
Double Strike: 18 --> (x2) 36 (spam ability malus cost)

Can someone answer this?
Or tell me if there are some fallacies in my formula?

Thanks in advance!!!
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Layfon Alseif
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Re: Double Strike VS Crushing Blow

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Nice job on laying the data out. I prefer double swing myself for the same reasons.
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Re: Double Strike VS Crushing Blow

Post by heyyo »

Nice post! The only things I can think of are:

1) The base damages for weapons (15-17 for axe and 17-18 for war hammer)
Average of 16 for axe and 17.5 for war hammer. The difference is 1.5, then divided by double axe average gives a damage difference of 9.375% (1.5/16).

2) Lumberjacking bonus for using an axe (with GM lumberjacking) is a 10% bonus for axes, which basically gets rid of the #1 decrease.
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Re: Double Strike VS Crushing Blow

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my post was more general about the special move, because there are axes with crushing blow too (Ornate Axe)

and with lumberjack 120 the bonus damage for axes is 34% ;) not 10%
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Re: Double Strike VS Crushing Blow

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JW agrees. That's why (before I went inactive) I was working on this... With a single target the damage output is fairly insane...

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a little off topic but always nice to see you post mr warren
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Re: Double Strike VS Crushing Blow

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Just did some non scientific testing. I used a basic yumm and a basic ornate axe on Minotaur captains. Armor pierce damage was around 48 with a high of 57. Double strike was around 43 (22 + 21) with a high of 48. Crushing blow was around 37 with a high of 41. Hope this helps. I did not use any spells. This was all basic damage.
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Yoda wrote:a little off topic but always nice to see you post mr warren
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Re: Double Strike VS Crushing Blow

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Gaara wrote:
Yoda wrote:a little off topic but always nice to see you post mr warren
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